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12.5 Are There “gays” In Islam


Does Islam have a concept for “being gay”?

In the Islamic tradition, there is no analogous term for the concept of “homosexual,” i.e., the notion of a person who experiences stable and exclusive erotic attraction to the same sex while not feeling such attractions towards the opposite sex. There is also no term for “heterosexual.” Islamic scholars have employed terms to describe a person who committed the action of Qawm Lut. However, this is not what Westerners mean when they use the word “homosexual.” In the Western context, a “gay” person is one whose identity is defined by his attraction to the same sex. According to modern Western conceptions, an important and immutable characteristic of a person is his “sexual orientation.” Similar to popular notions of how a person can be born with a certain color of skin and, thus, belong to a certain race, a person can be born with a certain sexual orientation and, thus, belong to a sexual identity group, e.g., “gay,” “straight,” “bi,” etc.

The Islamic tradition, in contrast, has no such conception of a sexual identity. While it may be possible that a person be born with more of an affinity and attraction to the same sex (or even have the desire to be anally penetrated, as in the case of the “ma’bun,” which the classical scholars discussed at length), nonetheless, as far as Islamic categories are concerned, this does not make that person a “homosexual” or “gay” in terms of one’s essential identity, “who one is.” This is because who a person ultimately is – internally and externally – is not based on what that person desires or what thoughts might occur to him. Islamic sexual categories having to do with identity all revolve around action, not mere desire, e.g., zani, etc. Once an act has been committed and a person is convicted for that in a proper Islamic court, then that is the only time it is appropriate to use such terms in referring to specific persons. But this has nothing to do with being a “homosexual,” which itself is only a modern Western term coined in the 19th century CE (13th century AH).

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Chapters (129)
  1. 1About The Author
  2. 21. Introduction
  3. 32. Atheism
  4. 42.1 The Self Worship Of Hawking And Physics
  5. 52.2 Anything Except God
  6. 62.3 I Love Science!” And Other Confusions
  7. 72.4 The Self-defeating Nature Of Atheism
  8. 82.5 Unintended Implications Of Atheism
  9. 92.6 Where Is The Evidence For God?
  10. 103. Secularism & Democracy
  11. 113.1 Secularism Is Not Neutral. It Is Suppression
  12. 123.2 The Void Of The Secular
  13. 133.3 The Void Of The Secular
  14. 143.4 Banning The Hijab In Germany
  15. 153.5 Down With The Separation Of Church And State
  16. 163.6 Shaking Hands In Switzerland
  17. 173.7 Only Tyrants Want To Replace Sharia With Religious Freedom
  18. 183.8 Wrapping Our Language In A Liberal Veneer Gets Us Nowhere
  19. 193.9 Is Democracy Better Than Islamic Governance?
  20. 203.10 Secularism Cannot Square The Circle
  21. 214. Freedom, Equality And Liberty
  22. 224.1 Religious Indoctrination And Religious Freedom
  23. 234.2 Islam Does Not Respect Freedom Of Religion
  24. 244.3 The Golden Rule, Self-worship, And Satanism
  25. 254.4 Freedom Of Thought
  26. 264.5 Alcohol And Freedom
  27. 274.6 Hadith On Hudud, Corruption, And Equality
  28. 284.7 Je Suis Hypocrite
  29. 294.8 Is Islam About Liberty?
  30. 304.9 Shouldn’t We All Support Freedom Of Choice
  31. 314.10 Does Islam Promote Equality
  32. 324.11 Spreading Religion Vs. Spreading Human Rights
  33. 334.12 Freedom To Pursue Your Desires
  34. 345. Feminism
  35. 355.1 The Grave Implications Of Feminist Islam
  36. 365.2 The Logic Of Patriarchy
  37. 375.3 Feminism The Cause Of Women Leaving Islam?
  38. 385.4 Who Wants To Debate Patriarchy
  39. 395.5 Slamic Law Makes It Easy For Husbands To Oppress Wives
  40. 405.6 Criticizing Feminism The Right Way
  41. 415.7 Women’s Wellbeing, Not Feminism
  42. 425.8 The Political And Social Power Of Motherhood
  43. 435.9 Triple Talaq
  44. 446. Hijab
  45. 456.1 What Is Oppressive About Hijab Requirements In Some Muslim Countries
  46. 466.2 Productive Ways To Discuss The Hijab
  47. 476.3 The French And The Hijab
  48. 486.4 Fallacies Regarding Hijab
  49. 496.5 There Is No Practical Purpose For The Hijab
  50. 506.6 Hijab And Empowerment Cliches
  51. 516.7 Hijab Is About Choice” And Other Confusions
  52. 526.8 Stop Saying Dumb Things About Hijab
  53. 536.9 Non-muslims Love Burkinis, But Why
  54. 546.10 How Not To Argue Against The Burkini Ban
  55. 556.11 Wearing Hijab As Disobedience
  56. 566.12 Feminism And Hijab (or The Dangers Of Uncritically Adopting Modernist Discourse)
  57. 577. Science & Scientism
  58. 587.1 Common Misconceptions About Scientific Miracles In The Quran
  59. 597.2 Do Islam And Science Ever Conflict? Yes
  60. 607.3 There Is No “pluralism” In Science
  61. 617.4 The Reality Of Science
  62. 627.5 Slam And Science In Conflict: Describing Reality
  63. 638. Liberalism, Liberal Hypocrisy
  64. 648.1 Liberalism Doesn’t See Anything Wrong With Incest
  65. 658.2 Liberal Moral “progress”: The Consent Taboo
  66. 668.3 The Fake Tolerance of Liberalism
  67. 678.4 Liberalism Is Not Merely Irrational. It Is Sheer Madness
  68. 688.5 Liberal Secularism’s Biggest Deceit
  69. 698.6 Liberal Faux-theology
  70. 709. Progressivism, Morality
  71. 719.1 Progressivism And The Inheritors Of The Pharaohs
  72. 729.2 The Incoherence Of Moral Progress
  73. 739.3 We Are The Latest And Greatest (famous Last Words)
  74. 749.4 Modern Vs. Traditional Conceptions Of Knowledge
  75. 759.5 Muslim Savages Cannot Keep Up With Social Progress
  76. 769.6 Is Islam Relevant
  77. 779.7 Who Is The Real “free Thinker”
  78. 789.8 The Logical Direction Of Morality
  79. 799.9 Good Without God? Do We Need Religion To Be “good People”
  80. 8010. Reformists, Modernists
  81. 8110.1 Traditional Muslims Vs. The Modernists
  82. 8210.2 Communist Islam – What We Can Learn From That Travesty
  83. 8310.3 Is Islam The Reason The Muslim World Is “backwards”? Latin America Begs To Differ
  84. 8410.4 The Hypocrisy Of “islamic Reform
  85. 8510.5 Progressive And Modernist Muslim Reform
  86. 8610.6 The Insight Of The Faux-traditionalis
  87. 8710.7 The Modernist Playbook
  88. 8810.8 Hypocrisy On Gender Separation
  89. 8910.9 Knowledge Vs. The Appearance Of Knowledge
  90. 9010.10 “american Islam”
  91. 9110.11 The Western Strategy For Dominating The Muslim World
  92. 9210.12 Hadith And Epistemology: Adam’s Height
  93. 9310.13 The Progressives Vs. The Faux-traditionalists
  94. 9410.14 The Multi-headed Hydra Of Muslim Reformism
  95. 9510.15 Lizard Hole Cometh
  96. 9611. Sex & Zina
  97. 9711.1 Sex Sells, The Same Way Drugs Sell
  98. 9811.2 The Sexual Misery Of The Western World
  99. 9911.3 There Is Only One Kind Of Safe Sex
  100. 10011.4 Premarital Sex Is Not A Victim-less Crime
  101. 10111.5 Sex Is Taboo In Islam
  102. 10211.6 The Purpose Of “sex Education”
  103. 10311.7 Child Marriage” In Bangladesh
  104. 10411.8 Ikhtilat
  105. 10512. Homosexuality & Lgbt
  106. 10612.1 Gay Equality
  107. 10712.2 Is Islam’s Prohibition Of Same-sex Behavior Discriminatory
  108. 10812.3 If We Don’t Support Lgbt Rights, We Will Lose Muslim Rights
  109. 10912.4 Extrasexual Rights Now
  110. 11012.5 Are There “gays” In Islam
  111. 11112.6 This Moment In History
  112. 11213. Malaise
  113. 11313.1 Keeping You Misinformed Is Their Job
  114. 11413,2 Consuming Content And Its Effect On The Heart
  115. 11513.3 The Single Eye Of Modern Politics
  116. 11613.4 How Capitalism Destroys Contentment
  117. 11713.5 How Capitalism Destroys Contentment
  118. 11813.6 The Corporate Virus
  119. 11913.7 Positive Psychology, Self Help, The Science Of Happiness
  120. 12013.8 The Reality Of Baraka
  121. 12113.9 Ramzan Vs. Ramadan
  122. 12214. Muslim Skeptic
  123. 12314.1 The Value Of Destruction To Modern Islamic Scholarship
  124. 12414.2 Purifying The Mind
  125. 12514.3 What Does It Mean To Be A “muslim Skeptic”
  126. 12614.4 What Is The Mission Of The Muslim Skeptic
  127. 12714.5 Why Be A Muslim Skeptic
  128. 12814.6 A Foundational Principle For Understanding Islam In Light Of Modernity
  129. 12914.7 Confessions Of A Muslim Skeptic