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9.2 The Incoherence Of Moral Progress


Liberal secular progressives (including humanists, atheists, reformists, etc.) think there is nothing wrong with morality changing over time and view it as a natural, inevitable process that we should all embrace. Unfortunately for them, they are deeply confused about the very nature of morality.

These individuals have no problem with religious morality being discarded over time because they do not view religious norms as morally compelling in the first place. They say things like, “Well, in the past, due to religious sentiment, sex outside of marriage, for example, was considered wrong, but times have changed and we don’t find it so bad anymore because we have progressed.” It is very easy to show how muddled this thinking is. Simply consider a value that these people do find morally compelling, e.g., racial equality. Ask them, would they be OK with white supremacy being considered morally acceptable one day? Would it make sense to say that morality could evolve such that, one day, white supremacy is the ethical norm that all are expected to aspire to? Why not? What if there really isn’t anything wrong with white supremacy but we just don’t realize it yet and only future people will be able to realize it, similar to how at one point, fornication was considered wrong, but future people “discovered” that it’s not so bad? What’s the difference? Why couldn’t morality evolve in that way?

Now the response to this might be: “Morality does not evolve haphazardly. It evolves in a specific direction. Our morality becomes increasingly accurate as it sheds superstitions and identifies harms. The only truly immoral act is to harm another person and this is called the ‘Harm Principle.’” Those indoctrinated by liberal secularism tend to have this view: The only true moral principle is the Harm Principle. Using this logic, they claim (despite plenty of countervailing evidence) that we have discovered that fornication doesn’t really harm people, so it should not be considered immoral. Furthermore, we have discovered that white supremacy is harmful, therefore it should be considered immoral.

But let’s step back for a moment. First of all, if the Harm Principle is the keystone of all morality as liberal secularists claim, then would they concede that it could also evolve? If morality evolves and progresses, then could we one day discover that it is morally permissible to harm people and that the Harm Principle is an obsolete relic of the past? If liberal secular progressives maintain that this is not possible and the Harm Principle will always remain normatively compelling, then they are not really progressive when it comes to morality. They believe that there are moral absolutes. So how could they fault devout Muslims for also believing in moral absolutes that are invariant with time?

Now, refuting the Harm Principle is easy enough to do (simply question what truly constitutes harm and who gets to decide that; and additionally, point out that harm itself is a value-laden concept that depends on your broader moral and ontological commitments, etc.). But I want to focus on the idea of evolving morality. Those who are dedicated to the Harm Principle as a moral absolute explain changing moral attitudes through time as a function of discovering what is or is not truly harmful. But what is this discovery process?

Epistemologically speaking, is discovering harms akin to discovering new planets or new chemicals? Is it an empirical thing? Where can you see harm? And, more importantly, how does our ability to see it progress as a function of time? We can understand how discovering planets in the universe has become easier with improved telescope technology. But what is allowing us to discover new harms over time?

Clearly, the liberal secular progressive is not going to have a non-ridiculous, non-grasping-at-straws answer to this, so he will resort to this line: “Harms were always known but powerful, evil, self-serving people prevented moral sentiments from changing in order to address those harms.” A couple of notes on this. First, where is the proof that certain harms were always known? If we survey world history, much of what is considered seriously “harmful” by present standards was unheard of historically. Homophobia is one example. Transphobia is another. Cultural appropriation is another. Microagression is another. Oppression through pronoun usage is another. In fact, just attend a liberal arts class, preferably in the Gender Studies department at your nearest university, and virtually everything that is taught as oppression, disenfranchisement, sexism, etc., was historically unheard of. The very concepts upon which these “wrongs” are based were not coined prior to one or two generations ago. So how plausible is this view that many of the serious “harms” recognized by liberal secular progressives today were known historically?

Secondly, again this response undermines the whole idea of moral progress. If the Harm Principle is an un-evolving absolute and what is or is not harmful is an un-evolving absolute and people’s knowledge of what is or is not harmful is an un-evolving absolute, then where exactly is all the moral progress we keep hearing so much about? Our interlocutor could say that the progress happens when the bad guys get beat and true justice triumphs. But that is a very weak idea of moral progress. Everyone believes in this kind of moral progress! The fight between good and evil is perpetual and sometimes, the good guys win. Other times they lose. Even non-liberal, non-secular theists believe this! This is hardly the notion of continuous moral progress over the course of human history that liberal secularists like to appeal to.

Ultimately, when this idea of moral progress is critically examined, it does not withstand the most minimal amount of scrutiny. The notion suffers from serious epistemological problems and this is partly due to the conceptual deficiencies within the Harm Principle itself. When liberal secular progressives invoke moral progress, Muslims who maintain the universal, unchanging applicability of Islamic moral principles from the time of revelation to present, should push back. Muslims should point out these problems and demand that their ideological opponents address the gaping holes in their thought.

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Chapters (129)
  1. 1About The Author
  2. 21. Introduction
  3. 32. Atheism
  4. 42.1 The Self Worship Of Hawking And Physics
  5. 52.2 Anything Except God
  6. 62.3 I Love Science!” And Other Confusions
  7. 72.4 The Self-defeating Nature Of Atheism
  8. 82.5 Unintended Implications Of Atheism
  9. 92.6 Where Is The Evidence For God?
  10. 103. Secularism & Democracy
  11. 113.1 Secularism Is Not Neutral. It Is Suppression
  12. 123.2 The Void Of The Secular
  13. 133.3 The Void Of The Secular
  14. 143.4 Banning The Hijab In Germany
  15. 153.5 Down With The Separation Of Church And State
  16. 163.6 Shaking Hands In Switzerland
  17. 173.7 Only Tyrants Want To Replace Sharia With Religious Freedom
  18. 183.8 Wrapping Our Language In A Liberal Veneer Gets Us Nowhere
  19. 193.9 Is Democracy Better Than Islamic Governance?
  20. 203.10 Secularism Cannot Square The Circle
  21. 214. Freedom, Equality And Liberty
  22. 224.1 Religious Indoctrination And Religious Freedom
  23. 234.2 Islam Does Not Respect Freedom Of Religion
  24. 244.3 The Golden Rule, Self-worship, And Satanism
  25. 254.4 Freedom Of Thought
  26. 264.5 Alcohol And Freedom
  27. 274.6 Hadith On Hudud, Corruption, And Equality
  28. 284.7 Je Suis Hypocrite
  29. 294.8 Is Islam About Liberty?
  30. 304.9 Shouldn’t We All Support Freedom Of Choice
  31. 314.10 Does Islam Promote Equality
  32. 324.11 Spreading Religion Vs. Spreading Human Rights
  33. 334.12 Freedom To Pursue Your Desires
  34. 345. Feminism
  35. 355.1 The Grave Implications Of Feminist Islam
  36. 365.2 The Logic Of Patriarchy
  37. 375.3 Feminism The Cause Of Women Leaving Islam?
  38. 385.4 Who Wants To Debate Patriarchy
  39. 395.5 Slamic Law Makes It Easy For Husbands To Oppress Wives
  40. 405.6 Criticizing Feminism The Right Way
  41. 415.7 Women’s Wellbeing, Not Feminism
  42. 425.8 The Political And Social Power Of Motherhood
  43. 435.9 Triple Talaq
  44. 446. Hijab
  45. 456.1 What Is Oppressive About Hijab Requirements In Some Muslim Countries
  46. 466.2 Productive Ways To Discuss The Hijab
  47. 476.3 The French And The Hijab
  48. 486.4 Fallacies Regarding Hijab
  49. 496.5 There Is No Practical Purpose For The Hijab
  50. 506.6 Hijab And Empowerment Cliches
  51. 516.7 Hijab Is About Choice” And Other Confusions
  52. 526.8 Stop Saying Dumb Things About Hijab
  53. 536.9 Non-muslims Love Burkinis, But Why
  54. 546.10 How Not To Argue Against The Burkini Ban
  55. 556.11 Wearing Hijab As Disobedience
  56. 566.12 Feminism And Hijab (or The Dangers Of Uncritically Adopting Modernist Discourse)
  57. 577. Science & Scientism
  58. 587.1 Common Misconceptions About Scientific Miracles In The Quran
  59. 597.2 Do Islam And Science Ever Conflict? Yes
  60. 607.3 There Is No “pluralism” In Science
  61. 617.4 The Reality Of Science
  62. 627.5 Slam And Science In Conflict: Describing Reality
  63. 638. Liberalism, Liberal Hypocrisy
  64. 648.1 Liberalism Doesn’t See Anything Wrong With Incest
  65. 658.2 Liberal Moral “progress”: The Consent Taboo
  66. 668.3 The Fake Tolerance of Liberalism
  67. 678.4 Liberalism Is Not Merely Irrational. It Is Sheer Madness
  68. 688.5 Liberal Secularism’s Biggest Deceit
  69. 698.6 Liberal Faux-theology
  70. 709. Progressivism, Morality
  71. 719.1 Progressivism And The Inheritors Of The Pharaohs
  72. 729.2 The Incoherence Of Moral Progress
  73. 739.3 We Are The Latest And Greatest (famous Last Words)
  74. 749.4 Modern Vs. Traditional Conceptions Of Knowledge
  75. 759.5 Muslim Savages Cannot Keep Up With Social Progress
  76. 769.6 Is Islam Relevant
  77. 779.7 Who Is The Real “free Thinker”
  78. 789.8 The Logical Direction Of Morality
  79. 799.9 Good Without God? Do We Need Religion To Be “good People”
  80. 8010. Reformists, Modernists
  81. 8110.1 Traditional Muslims Vs. The Modernists
  82. 8210.2 Communist Islam – What We Can Learn From That Travesty
  83. 8310.3 Is Islam The Reason The Muslim World Is “backwards”? Latin America Begs To Differ
  84. 8410.4 The Hypocrisy Of “islamic Reform
  85. 8510.5 Progressive And Modernist Muslim Reform
  86. 8610.6 The Insight Of The Faux-traditionalis
  87. 8710.7 The Modernist Playbook
  88. 8810.8 Hypocrisy On Gender Separation
  89. 8910.9 Knowledge Vs. The Appearance Of Knowledge
  90. 9010.10 “american Islam”
  91. 9110.11 The Western Strategy For Dominating The Muslim World
  92. 9210.12 Hadith And Epistemology: Adam’s Height
  93. 9310.13 The Progressives Vs. The Faux-traditionalists
  94. 9410.14 The Multi-headed Hydra Of Muslim Reformism
  95. 9510.15 Lizard Hole Cometh
  96. 9611. Sex & Zina
  97. 9711.1 Sex Sells, The Same Way Drugs Sell
  98. 9811.2 The Sexual Misery Of The Western World
  99. 9911.3 There Is Only One Kind Of Safe Sex
  100. 10011.4 Premarital Sex Is Not A Victim-less Crime
  101. 10111.5 Sex Is Taboo In Islam
  102. 10211.6 The Purpose Of “sex Education”
  103. 10311.7 Child Marriage” In Bangladesh
  104. 10411.8 Ikhtilat
  105. 10512. Homosexuality & Lgbt
  106. 10612.1 Gay Equality
  107. 10712.2 Is Islam’s Prohibition Of Same-sex Behavior Discriminatory
  108. 10812.3 If We Don’t Support Lgbt Rights, We Will Lose Muslim Rights
  109. 10912.4 Extrasexual Rights Now
  110. 11012.5 Are There “gays” In Islam
  111. 11112.6 This Moment In History
  112. 11213. Malaise
  113. 11313.1 Keeping You Misinformed Is Their Job
  114. 11413,2 Consuming Content And Its Effect On The Heart
  115. 11513.3 The Single Eye Of Modern Politics
  116. 11613.4 How Capitalism Destroys Contentment
  117. 11713.5 How Capitalism Destroys Contentment
  118. 11813.6 The Corporate Virus
  119. 11913.7 Positive Psychology, Self Help, The Science Of Happiness
  120. 12013.8 The Reality Of Baraka
  121. 12113.9 Ramzan Vs. Ramadan
  122. 12214. Muslim Skeptic
  123. 12314.1 The Value Of Destruction To Modern Islamic Scholarship
  124. 12414.2 Purifying The Mind
  125. 12514.3 What Does It Mean To Be A “muslim Skeptic”
  126. 12614.4 What Is The Mission Of The Muslim Skeptic
  127. 12714.5 Why Be A Muslim Skeptic
  128. 12814.6 A Foundational Principle For Understanding Islam In Light Of Modernity
  129. 12914.7 Confessions Of A Muslim Skeptic